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Legislating for Common Sense: Encouraging the Legal Profession to use mediation as a first step

  • 1.  Legislating for Common Sense: Encouraging the Legal Profession to use mediation as a first step

    I'mLinkedIn
    Posted 25-11-2020 07:39 AM

    In 2009 the NSW Parliament legislated an amendment to the Civil Procedure Act 2005 (NSW) which would have had the effect of requiring intending litigants to make reasonable efforts to resolve their disputes before commencing litigation in a NSW Court.  Despite widespread community consultation and bipartisan support from the major political parties, the newly enacted Part 2A did not take effect and was ultimately repealed.  In an article I have written and will appear in the next edition of the Journal of Civil Law and Practice (JCivLP vol. 9 pt. 3) I have traced the passage of Part 2A through the parliament and considered some of the commentary that has been written about it over the last decade. My argument is that the reasons advanced against introducing the Part 2A amendment are now far from convincing, if indeed they ever were, and that it is now time to reintroduce a "reasonable efforts" requirement into the Civil Procedure Act 2005 (NSW).  It is more than forty years since American researchers Carnevale and Isen identified 'positive affect' as a contributing factor to disputants' disposition towards mediation and it is clear both that lawyers influence their clients' attitudes to mediation (and indeed whether to agree to mediation at all) and that there remains a significant undercurrent of resistance to mediation in NSW.  Legislation cannot by itself bring about a change in attitudes.  In the words of the aphorism "You can't legislate for common sense."  However, the introduction of the abandoned Part 2A amendment will do much to focus attention on the fact that there are more constructive ways to resolve most disputes than resorting to litigation.  I commend the article to your attention.



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    Dr John Woodward
    Associate Lecturer
    University of Newcastle NSW
    0403 054 411
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  • 2.  RE: Legislating for Common Sense: Encouraging the Legal Profession to use mediation as a first step

    Posted 26-11-2020 03:18 AM
    Edited by Bryan Fraser 26-11-2020 03:24 AM
    Thanks John for pointing out this article. Will have a lengthy read of it soon. 

    Cheers, 

    Bryan.

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    Bryan Fraser
    Dispute Resolution Practitioner
    Trident Commercial Solutions
    Bathurst NSW
    418803163
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  • 3.  RE: Legislating for Common Sense: Encouraging the Legal Profession to use mediation as a first step

    I'mLinkedIn
    Posted 26-11-2020 07:52 AM
    Thanks John.  I look forward to reading the article.  As a mediator in a statutory scheme in Victoria which has mandatory pre-litigation mediation, I have seen first hand the benefits of the process and I struggle to see why there has not been much more progress in this area.  It's great to see the conversation being continued.

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    Nicole Davidson
    Mediator and Facilitator
    Nicole Davidson Negotiation
    Malvern VIC
    0403 523 700
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  • 4.  RE: Legislating for Common Sense: Encouraging the Legal Profession to use mediation as a first step

    Early Adopter
    Posted 27-11-2020 05:37 AM
    I'm really interested to read the article, thanks for posting John. I find that lawyers are often the gatekeepers in terms of whether complaints reach a dispute resolution scheme. If this barrier was broken down, it would often result in better outcomes for those in dispute (going through mediation rather than litigation).

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    Stephanie Newton
    Case Manager
    Financial Services Complaints Ltd
    Wellington
    0800 347 257
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  • 5.  RE: Legislating for Common Sense: Encouraging the Legal Profession to use mediation as a first step

    I'mLinkedIn
    Posted 27-11-2020 08:58 AM

    Thanks Stephanie,

     

    I hope that I may have the opportunity to be involved in some work on this subject with RI next year.  So I will keep the group posted.

     

    Best wishes,

     

    Dr John Woodward

    Associate Lecturer

    Law School

    The University of Newcastle (UON)
    Level 5, 409 Hunter Street
    Newcastle NSW 2300
    Australia

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  • 6.  RE: Legislating for Common Sense: Encouraging the Legal Profession to use mediation as a first step

    I'mLinkedIn
    Posted 27-11-2020 11:38 AM
    Edited by David Chin 27-11-2020 11:46 AM
    Dear John,

    Member Connect is in its early days, however one of the value I can see of this platform is hearing from members what is important to them and for us at the Resolution Institute to use this as one area of feedback to flow into the various Committees and also as input into the strategic and operational plans. I can see already this topic that you have raised is generating interest and it is of importance to the dispute resolution community. I will be highlighting this topic to our policy and advocacy team as they discuss plans for 2021 and beyond.

    As this community grow we can also form specific groups. I am in the process of encouraging all the facilitative and determinative committees to work with me to set up their committees here where we can centralise meetings, minutes, documentation and invite members to contribute. I will be highlighting some these features in my #TipsThursday in due course.

    For this community to truly be representative I would encourage you and all members that are already here, if you know of other members that are not using this platform to encourage them to join and participate.

    Thank you once again for your valuable contribution and we look forward to further engagement.

    @Andrew Serb @Amber Williams @Amanda Dollman @Trevor Slater @Ian Richardson
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    David Chin
    Membership Manager
    Resolution Institute
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  • 7.  RE: Legislating for Common Sense: Encouraging the Legal Profession to use mediation as a first step

    Early Adopter
    Posted 27-11-2020 10:39 AM
    Hi John,
    Thanks for this article. It is so important that we catch up in New South Wales. Apart from the article and your efforts to convince the powers that be, what can we do to help?
    I spoke to my local member Henskens, Who was a barrister before going into parliament. His attitude, was that Mediator's are touchy-feely kumbaya types. His attitude reflects that of members of the NSW Barr. 

    To be successful I believe some intense lobbying is required in n addition to your excellent work. Perhaps Resolution Institute could assist?


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    [Mike] [Hyde]
    *Director
    The Mediation Specialists Group Pty Limited
    Wahroonga NSW
    [0430064797]
    MichaelHydeMichael
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  • 8.  RE: Legislating for Common Sense: Encouraging the Legal Profession to use mediation as a first step

    I'mLinkedIn
    Posted 27-11-2020 11:57 AM

    Hi Michael,

     

    Thanks for your remarks.  I know Alistair Henskens.  I used to run cases against him in earlier days when we were both practicing solicitors in Newcastle.  I'm not greatly surprised at his views and I agree that they coincide with those of many people from both sides of the profession in NSW.  I think the first thing we need to do is to see how the article is received because it takes the reader through the history of the legislation thus far and the mere history of it is enough to demonstrate (unarguably I say) that compulsory "reasonable steps" before litigation is simply elementary and ought to be mandated – as both major political parties agreed in 2010.  The Chief Justice made the point in 2011 that such steps should not be introduced here because, in his view, they are not necessary.  With great respect to him, I think that there is ample evidence in the community to suggest that he is wrong in that view and I have listed some examples in the article. 

     

    As to what more we can do, I think that RI can help and I understand from a conversation I had last night with someone at the Newcastle Chapter AGM that RI is planning in the New Year to run a program to engage lawyers more with mediation theory so that they have a better understanding of it.  I have volunteered my services to assist with that program so I am looking forward to hearing from them in the New Year to learn more about what is proposed and to become involved.  I also intend to send copies of my article to every member of the NSW Parliament when it is published.

     

    Best wishes,     

     

    Dr John Woodward

    Associate Lecturer

    Law School

    The University of Newcastle (UON)
    Level 5, 409 Hunter Street
    Newcastle NSW 2300
    Australia

    E: John.Woodward@newcastle.edu.au

    P: 0403 054 411

    CRICOS Provider 00109J

     

     

    NUMBER 1 IN AUSTRALIA for Quality of Overall Education, Experience, Learning Resources, Skills, Development and Teaching Quality Skills* *QILT Student Experience Survey 2018-2019

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  • 9.  RE: Legislating for Common Sense: Encouraging the Legal Profession to use mediation as a first step

    Early Adopter
    Posted 27-11-2020 02:21 PM
    Hi John,
    A sensible approach. 
    Along with all the suggested strategies perhaps the key is in-depth conversations with the Chief justice, stressing that "it's time" (in the words of a famous advertising campaign) for him to leave a great legacy, convincing him with a plethora of favourable evidence, as the conversation piece. After all, it is the logical first step in access to justice.


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    [Mike] [Hyde]
    *Director
    The Mediation Specialists Group Pty Limited
    Wahroonga NSW
    [0430064797]
    MichaelHydeMichael
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  • 10.  RE: Legislating for Common Sense: Encouraging the Legal Profession to use mediation as a first step

    I'mLinkedIn
    Posted 27-11-2020 01:13 PM
    Thanks for your article John.  As you know the family law jurisdiction is a huge advocate for "talk first, file later" and it would be great to see NSW take a similar path!
    take care.
    julie

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    JULIE KEARNEY
    owner
    jkresolutions.com.au
    Stockton NSW
    428121977
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  • 11.  RE: Legislating for Common Sense: Encouraging the Legal Profession to use mediation as a first step

    Posted 28-11-2020 06:17 AM

    As a Judge of the Federal Circuit Court of Australia sitting in family law and previously a barrister, Family  dispute resolution practitioner and general mediator and Resolution Institute member I would live to see mediation expand and expand and expand. 

    I often tell the litigants in my court in parenting matters - "I get information in a bubble - the admissible evidence- to decide how you should parent your children. You two have the full 24 volume encyclopaedia on these kids. Who better to plan their lives. You two, a consentration on the kids best interests and a skilled mediator is all it takes." So few take it up. 

    I can require FDR mediation under s13C FLaw Act and very often do. 

    Far from mediators are "namy pambys", mediation forever!!!!



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    Dillon Morley
    Barrister
    Dillon Morley, Barrister-at-Law
    SYDNEY NSW
    497069061
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  • 12.  RE: Legislating for Common Sense: Encouraging the Legal Profession to use mediation as a first step

    I'mLinkedIn
    Posted 28-11-2020 08:22 AM
    Thank you John I am looking forward to reading the article in due course.
    Stay safe and kind regards

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    Hugo Aston
    Barrister
    Barclay Churchill Pty Limited
    Launceston TAS
    0448 807 075
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  • 13.  RE: Legislating for Common Sense: Encouraging the Legal Profession to use mediation as a first step

    I'mLinkedIn
    Posted 30-11-2020 10:16 AM
    Hi John - thanks for your important article

    I am a close friend of a Fed Circuit Court Judge [name suppressed] who was passionate about exactly your point.   Finding ways to relieve the pressure on the courts, refining those matters that are "trial-worthy" vs those that should be resolved upstream with simpler, faster solution paths was key in our discussion on this topic.  Efficient upstream processes can have the effect of a) resolving matters, b) improving mutual understanding on options, c) setting the scene for out of court settlements, to an extent relieving the pressure on the registrar for the court and the relevant judges downstream of these processes.

     

    He echoed my interpretation that the dispute initiators and their legal reps (solicitors/barristers) determine what they believe is trial-worthy and the only gating process on whether a matter is referred to trial from that point is the registrar for the court.   

     
    An effective, upstream triage process that can prioritise mediation or some form of conciliation prior to finalising dates for court is vital so that trivial matters dont find their way to clog the courts, but this form of triage is not consistently applied.   COVID has done nothing but compound an already very stressed system.

    He said there was a process in Victoria referred to as the blitz process whereby a judge would call over 25 matters to be heard in a day, on the condition that the parties had a red-hot go with a mediator prior to trial.   However he stressed the end point of mediation was that the parties had the choice to press onward to arbitration or court if they chose to

    Something similar was done in Qld recently where a number of mediators banded together for free to clear backlog to the trial process, however that was in relation to a log-jam and is not a regular practise.   Obviously something as aggressive as 25 matters listed for call-over requires a team of people and intense effort on the fly.  Such intense effort requires a coordinated approach.

    The "blitz" model promoted in Victoria has potential to be a tremendous tool to free up the courts which will challenge sparring parties to follow a structured process and hold a genuine discussion prior to trial, related to resolution of the matters.   The challenge for mediators, conciliators and legal professionals upstream of the courts is to be the point of difference to processes which are struggling under the relentless pressure currently biased to referral to the courts.



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    Ed Skinner
    Director
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    Teneriffe QLD
    411660446
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  • 14.  RE: Legislating for Common Sense: Encouraging the Legal Profession to use mediation as a first step

    I'mLinkedIn
    Posted 01-12-2020 08:54 AM
    I look forward to reading the article. It is encouraging to see some in the thread have touched on the other arm to this argument, the need for cultural change in the legal profession. It is apparent some in the profession may be more focused on protecting their patch, as it were, than perhaps the best interests of their clients.
    As I have sort to add mediation to my own quiver of solutions for my clients, on more then one occasion I have run up against resistance from the legal profession. 
    One example has stayed with me because of the quaint language used. Interestingly, given comments here, the protagonist of sorts was a solicitor from Melbourne.
    I received an inquiry regarding a private citizen seeking to settle a dispute with a neighbouring commercial entity. Their solicitor had advised them to seek an ADR solution (mediation) as the legal avenues had stalled.  However, under the auspices of an efficient and cost effective resolution pathway, the solicitor of the other party communicated with the inquirer's solicitor that they had advised their client against participating in the mediation. They indicated that, in their view, mediation is an unnecessary expense that the parties (and their solicitors) should continue to pursue resolution via the "usual exchange of letters".
    I had been intentionally cc'd on the email by the other party's solicitor, even though I did not work for either solicitor nor was involved in any way in the legal matter. The message to me was intentional and clear, back of.
    The use of mediation and its advantages is reasonably well understood within the the legal profession, as is its cost effectiveness and efficiency. The question is how to facilitate cultural change in the legal profession at a time when there is perhaps never been more intense competition for work?

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    Serge Killingbeck
    Analyst/Mediator
    NCA Consulting
    Goonellabah NSW
    422970871
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  • 15.  RE: Legislating for Common Sense: Encouraging the Legal Profession to use mediation as a first step

    Posted 02-12-2020 09:00 AM
    Great in theory but in my experience the lawyers block more mediations than encourage the client to seek help with a professional outside of their own company. We even have lawyers with their own 'mediation' rooms now (I'm based in QLD) in office so the client just get's passed on to another lawyer/mediator so it's kept in house. It may be legislated but it's not enforced. I think it should be mandatory that the clients are referred 'outside' of the legal arena to see if they can resolve their differences in a conciliatory manner. Would be interested to see/hear any follow up on this article. Thanks for sharing.

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    Danielle Searle
    Principal
    Gold Coast Mediation & Resolution
    Burleigh Heads QLD
    416263972
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  • 16.  RE: Legislating for Common Sense: Encouraging the Legal Profession to use mediation as a first step

    I'mLinkedIn
    Posted 02-12-2020 09:28 AM

    Thank you for your contribution Danielle.  What my journal article proposes is a legislative scheme for NSW similar to that required by the Civil Dispute Resolution Act 2009 (C'th) for proceedings in federal courts.  The effect is that disputing parties may not commence proceedings in a court until they have filed with the court a statement indicating that they have taken genuine steps to resolve their dispute (or 'reasonable steps' in the NSW version).  As my own PhD research made clear, there is certainly an undercurrent of resistance from the legal services community to litigation avoidance measures and my hope is to encourage a culture change that will reduce the level of resistance and encourage a more collaborative relationship between lawyers and mediators generally. 

     

    Best wishes,  

     






  • 17.  RE: Legislating for Common Sense: Encouraging the Legal Profession to use mediation as a first step

    I'mLinkedIn
    Posted 19-12-2020 02:24 PM

    Early in November 20 the Australian Small Business and Family Enterprise Ombudsman (ASBFEO) Kate Carnell released her final report stating that the outdated court system is failing small business and called for an overhaul of the dispute resolution framework to make it less formal, timely and more cost effective.

    This report, based on a survey of some 1600 small businesses involved in disputes, found that the average cost to resolve a dispute through formal pathways today is over $130,000.

    I believe that a significant proportion of this cost is incurred by litigants just preparing to litigate their dispute in the Courts.

    The implementation of your proposed common-sense approach to litigation should result in significant cost savings for small businesses involved in disputes through the use of alternative dispute resolution processes prior to the commencement of litigation.



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    Chris Pitts
    Partner of Bridge Mediation
    Bridge Mediation Pty Ltd
    North Sydney NSW
    419294277
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  • 18.  RE: Legislating for Common Sense: Encouraging the Legal Profession to use mediation as a first step

    I'mLinkedIn
    Posted 02-02-2021 01:18 PM
    Edited by David Chin 02-02-2021 02:25 PM
    Dear John, Thank you for your contribution and I hope to find you well. I think this discussion has generated a lot of interest in the membership. I would like to introduce you to @Sean Brogan who has just started at the Resolution Institute as our Public Affairs Manager. One area he is interested to explore building advocacy on is the topic of Encouraging the legal profession to use mediation as a first step. It would be good for both of you to connect and to find other like minded members to work together to formulate a strategy on this.

    I look forward to both of you connecting. 
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    David Chin
    Membership Manager
    Resolution Institute
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  • 19.  RE: Legislating for Common Sense: Encouraging the Legal Profession to use mediation as a first step

    I'mLinkedIn
    Posted 03-02-2021 08:40 AM
    I am pleased that my article seems to have generated some interest among members.  It is also generating some interest among academics.  On Monday and Tuesday of this week,  I chaired the 9th Annual round table meeting of the Australasian ADR Research Network (ADRRN) which was held online, hosted by the University of Newcastle Law School and featured presentations by dispute resolution experts from all over Australia, New Zealand, England and Scotland. 

    The ADRRN is a loose affiliation of academics, scholars and early career researchers who are interested in promoting ADR research and encouraging its further integration into the formal institutions of justice.  I am hopeful that negotiations presently underway between my colleagues, Professor Tania Sourdin, Dr Bin Li and RI, will result in some of the research papers discussed at our round table being published for the benefit of members.

    Together with other ADR interested bodies such as Resolution Institute and ADRAC, we have done much to advance the cause of ADR and increase its profile as an authentic manner of bringing an end to disputes and providing the community at large with the means of managing disputes where they arise.  In 2016 the "Priestly 11" syllabus of prescribed courses of study for admission to the practice of law in Australia was amended to include ADR as a compulsory element of civil dispute resolution so that students must now be introduced to ADR as part of their study of law prior to being admitted to practice as lawyers.  The Solicitors Rules for legal practice in NSW have been amended to include a requirement that lawyers advise their clients of the availability of ADR as an alternative to resorting to the courts to agitate their grievances.  Many statutes of the state and federal parliaments now mandate mediation as a first step to agitating disputes before the courts.  In many ways, Australia is at the forefront of innovation and development in the dispute resolution field.  Despite this, as my article explains, there is a clear undercurrent of resistance among some quarters of the legal profession to accepting ADR (and mediation in particular) beyond the extent to which it embraces the competitive practices of adversarial litigation.  I think that, as dispute resolution practitioners, it is in the interests of legal services consumers that we do what we can to promote awareness of ADR and mediation in particular. 

    My membership of Resolution Institute and my affiliation with ADRRN are dedicated to that cause.

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    Dr John Woodward
    Conjoint Lecturer
    University of Newcastle NSW
    0403 054 411
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  • 20.  RE: Legislating for Common Sense: Encouraging the Legal Profession to use mediation as a first step

    Posted 03-02-2021 02:59 PM
    It is good that we look at the areas that can be built on by the use of ADR, as adopting the appropriate use of the resolution system there will be a reasonable outcome for the parties. In my view there is considerable bias at the beginning level of dispute resolution. For example, I had a recent property mediation which lasted over a year, as the first step of ascertaining the evidence was not in a state where it could could be put before a registrar for consent order. I had to advise that the parties the make an application to the court.
    As a legal practitioner over the years I found that the Registrar's were very helpful, and when in the Supreme Court on civil matters the Registrar's could in almost all instances able to have the matter resolved by consent. In fact, in the Magistrate's Court the duty registrar with legal representation can close the matter with help from the legal practitioner's. There are many situations before the court, where I was directed to act as a mediator where the other side was not represented.
    There are many arears where legal practitioners are not necessarily required, such as in anti-dumping and countervailing issues where the WTO looks at having matters resolved by nation states, and at the other end relating to some employment disputes and many others. What I am saying is that there is a mirage of arears where competence as a mediator can really help.  
      


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    Richard Whitwell
    Principal
    Dr Richard Whitwell CPA Lawyer Mediator
    Braddon ACT
    61414768600
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  • 21.  RE: Legislating for Common Sense: Encouraging the Legal Profession to use mediation as a first step

    Posted 06-02-2021 03:32 PM
    Hi Richard and others,
    I am always encouraging the view that Mediation(ADR) methods should be tried first,before legal proceedings.I am a non Lawyer,but have Industrial and Mining expertise and would welcome comment on the value of non Lawyer intervention as a first port of call for clients wishing to resolve issues.What areas of disputes would be suitable to non Lawyers?
    When I completed NMAS Training,I originally thought Lawyers were always my competition but not sure.How do Lawyers see us working together?
    Phil Halstead
    NSW

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    Phillip Halstead
    Professional Member
    PH Counselling
    Fairy Meadow NSW
    450297442
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  • 22.  RE: Legislating for Common Sense: Encouraging the Legal Profession to use mediation as a first step

    Posted 07-02-2021 08:37 AM
    I have -following the lead of alan limbury-been a supporter of mandatory adr prior to litigation.Save in very exceptional circs the logic and sense of it is undeniable in my view. Also being a lawyer is not and should not be a requirement or even a presumed benefit in ADR -see my paper " Have lawyers hijacked the promise of mediation"


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    Max Kimber
    SC
    State Chambers
    Sydney NSW
    414662648
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  • 23.  RE: Legislating for Common Sense: Encouraging the Legal Profession to use mediation as a first step

    I'mLinkedIn
    Posted 07-02-2021 09:56 AM
    Thanks to Max Kimber and Phillip Halstead for your valuable contributions to this conversation.  I think that, as a general proposition, it would be fair to say that most lawyers, even in NSW, are "on board" with the idea of mediation.  They have to be.  It is now institutionalised and, in many cases, is mandatory.  My claim is that it should be mandatory in all cases except where, for special reasons, it is shown not to be appropriate.  Part 2A of the NSW Civil Procedure Act, 2005, would have provided us with some assurance that intending litigants were at least being advised about it and that ADR would be considered.  After more than thirty years in legal practice as a commercial litigator, I cannot imagine a case where you would prefer the cost, time and personal anxiety of adversarial litigation as a first step if other possibilities are left unexplored.  Justice Sackville of the NSW Court of Appeal has explained on more than one occasion that people cannot expect just, quick and cheap resolution of disputes if they wish to rely only on the public resource of the courts.  This is because the judicial determination of disputes necessarily takes more time and costs more money than is consistent with the public's heightened expectations of achieving justice immediately.  So, with the aid of the Civil Procedure Acts and mandatory mediation where it applies, and other ADR processes, we battle on.  As my PhD research revealed, there is a significant undercurrent of resistance within the legal profession to compliance with the statutory obligations to mediate and, as Professors Menkel-Meadow and Sourdin and Dr Olivia Rundle have observed from their studies into lawyers' engagement with mediation, there is also a tendency among lawyers to "appropriate" the mediation process - to refashion it into a model of adversarial combat more familiar to the legal profession.  So, in answer to Phillip's question, yes, there is a place in ADR for non-lawyers.  We do need non-lawyer mediators, especially those who have expertise in psychology, the behavioural sciences and conflict management and who understand what animates conflict.  But we also need lawyers in mediation.  At the end of every successful court-connected mediation, there is an agreement which brings an end to the court proceedings and it is vital that the parties have received legal advice about the effect of the agreement and that the agreement itself is fashioned as an enforceable legal instrument that will be effective in bringing an end to the dispute.

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    Dr John Woodward
    Conjoint Lecturer
    University of Newcastle NSW
    0403 054 411
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  • 24.  RE: Legislating for Common Sense: Encouraging the Legal Profession to use mediation as a first step

    Posted 07-02-2021 12:41 PM
    John
    i suggest this has been a useful discussion of the application of mediation. I do not profess to be an academic in this area, and perhaps the closest to offering a view would have been in my thesis on anti-dumping where the ITO through its formed panels offered solutions for applicants to grasp.
    Regards
    Richard

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    Richard Whitwell
    Principal
    Dr Richard Whitwell CPA Lawyer Mediator
    Braddon ACT
    61414768600
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  • 25.  RE: Legislating for Common Sense: Encouraging the Legal Profession to use mediation as a first step

    I'mLinkedIn
    Posted 08-02-2021 10:25 AM
    In my experience early on in a dispute both sides often think they have a great case and want "justice". Hence pursue legal action.
    It is only once they in the legal process and become aware of the cost, time and that the outcome may not be favorable.

    It is then that mediation becomes a more attractive option.

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    Stuart Carr
    Director
    Carix
    Pyrmont NSW
    0424310150
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  • 26.  RE: Legislating for Common Sense: Encouraging the Legal Profession to use mediation as a first step

    Posted 09-02-2021 09:08 AM

    What an interesting discussion around using "mediation as a first step".

    However, here is a challenge for all those in the commercial dispute space. Why should mediation be the first step? What about negotiation? It will address all the benefits of mediation but be resolved earlier and cheaper. The key is to work with a party and develop a realistic expectation.

     

    In 2000 I assisted in the resolution of a large contract where there were over 400 issues. The other side asked what we would settle for which was an excellent question. It resulted in me building a model to derive a realistic assessment of the bottom line. Each issue had an owner who had to objectively assess how they would argue it, what were the chances of success and what would be the value of the issue if it succeeded. It made for some interesting inhouse discussions!

     

    The benefits were huge not least of all being settlement in a matter of weeks.

     

    I was then invited to assist other Clients using the same process and this resulted in a toolset called IssuesValuer which has recently been completely re-developed. Here is a brochure. If you are interested in this approach then please give me a call.

     

    Gavin Halling

    0411 552 006



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    Gavin Halling
    Director
    RiskTools Pty Ltd
    WEETANGERA ACT
    0411 552 006
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  • 27.  RE: Legislating for Common Sense: Encouraging the Legal Profession to use mediation as a first step

    I'mLinkedIn
    Posted 08-02-2021 11:48 AM

    As a non-lawyer Mediator this is a really interesting thread for me.

    Slight segue.

     

    I was accredited under the NMAS last year, bringing 40 collective years of business and board experience with me, and am currently studying my GradDip in FDR. Finding a FDRP who is willing to help with 50hours practicum is proving to be incredibly difficult. Of course I understand the complexities from the supervisor's side…but with the state of the Family Court system, there is clearly an issue.   Any and all advice/suggestions/thoughts greatly appreciated.



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    Karen Howard, FAICD
    Owner
    Mediation First
    Newcastle NSW
    0413123258
    karen@karenhoward.com.au
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  • 28.  RE: Legislating for Common Sense: Encouraging the Legal Profession to use mediation as a first step

    Early Adopter
    Posted 08-02-2021 05:54 PM

    I am a civil engineer not a lawyer and have been mediating commercial disputes for twelve years primarily, but not exclusively, in the construction sector. I work both with and without lawyers. Construction people tend to be technical and by nature want to find a solution. Some have a bit of a fear of lawyers and would prefer a person from their own technical background to mediate as there is a perception, rightly or wrongly, that the mediator understands the issues better than a lawyer. Construction contracts are mandating mediation more and more, always at a fairly early stage of the dispute. They don't always lead to settlement the first time but often do a few months later after several goes chipping away at the different issues – so mediate early and often!

    A technically qualified mediator can be particularly useful where there are a series of quality issues on construction sites. The technically qualified can suggest that the parties might wish to consider a left field solution that would not be within the experience of a lawyer.

    Co-mediation can also work well where one mediator is technical and the other legal. I do quite a bit of this type at the WA State Administrative Tribunal.

    My experience is that lawyers who represent clients in mediation fall into two categories.

    • The type who want to grandstand and make settlement difficult. They need to be dealt with firmly, if necessary in private.
    • The type who seek a solution. They are really useful to the mediator as they will work with their own clients to reduce unrealistic expectations.

    Call me if you want to discuss further.



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    John Fisher
    Dispute Resolver
    JPFC
    Carine WA
    0414 402337
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  • 29.  RE: Legislating for Common Sense: Encouraging the Legal Profession to use mediation as a first step

    Posted 05-02-2021 06:03 PM
    Hi David 
    I'm not so sure about the idea of a first step.  This implies that that agreement isn't going to be found.  

    I'd rather call mediation the next step, I expect that participants arrive in good faith, committed to hearing each other and working on creating agreement.  Of course if agreement isn't found then court might be an option but coming to mediation on the way to court just seems like burning money.

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    Peter Mathie
    Principal
    Perth Mediation Centre
    BASSENDEAN WA
    0419 183 283
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  • 30.  RE: Legislating for Common Sense: Encouraging the Legal Profession to use mediation as a first step

    Posted 04-02-2021 11:03 AM
    Hi John,
    Thanks for raising this issue, I look forward to reading your article.
    The PLT course curriculum at The College of Law includes ADR generally and mediation in particular. In my experience as an assessor of PLT students, the students are aware of mediation, know some of the benefits but assume that lawyers must be present at the mediation.
    In those jurisdictions where mediation is a pre-condition to trial, such as the Land & Environment Court and the Workers Compensation Commission, the legal profession seems to accept it as part of the process.
    In my view, the potential advantages of mediation are maximised if the parties do not have to incur the expense of their lawyers negotiating over the identity of the mediator.

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    Frances Richards
    Director, Frances Richards & Associates, Adjunct lecturer, The College of Law
    Frances Richards & Associates
    Randwick NSW
    419619916
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